Fans were seriously thrown by this; how could it be??? One possible explanation is that the woman got fat after her encounter with Barney, allowing the statement to remain true. The issue was also addressed on the fan site Be Awesome Instead.
Redditors weighed in on this confusion in several different posts:. Must have really let go… self. Maybe this was a charity case. I wonder if you can write that off on your taxes.. Seems pretty plausible considering the character. He might be lying. Or he slept with her in between the two episodes. Oh but he would. The only plausible conclusion that people have reached is of this woman gaining weight after sleeping with Barney. Some will note that Barney burned the Playbook, and he has obviously changed his views on marriage and long-term relationships.
But those changes took literally years to pan out, and we saw a ton of development leading up to his new perspective on such things. It took human interactions — with Robin, with Nora, with Quinn, and with the rest of the group — for Barney to progress into someone capable of commitment and monogamy.
Patrice could well be a starting step towards that, but she has always been presented as the butt of the joke. I think the scenes with Robin screaming at Patrice are hilarious. But those jokes were making fun of her for being naive, for being clingy, for being sweet to an annoying degree. I was comfortable laughing, because those are obviously fictional traits attributed to this character. This episode, though, was a mockery of her size.
She is a beautiful woman, and I think Barney would be able to see that if she were in a smaller package. Her gullible personality is practically begging for Barney to at least try to run a play on her, but it never happens.
They are both rebound bros — they are both backup friends. Their character similarities are striking, and I really want them to get together. It would be nice to see two underdog characters find love.
My point, though, is that even Randy is presented as a viable sexual prospect for women. It makes me wonder…if Patrice knew how Barney talked about fat people, would she still have wanted to help him? Probably yes. Robin is continuously horrible to her and Patrice is never deterred. But it seems mean to the character and actress to have her pretend to be a legitimate love interest for Barney. Barney is supposed to be an asshole about these things, but now the writers have added insult to injury.
When you try to play it so that Barney is suddenly a-ok with fat chicks, you make all of his past comments even more insulting. Suddenly all those mean fat jokes that were dubbed necessary to his character are just mean fat jokes. If Barney had actually changed, it would be a perfectly acceptable if distasteful, at least to some method of showing character development. Barney does not actually like Patrice. He does not actually love Patrice. He is using her, plain and simple.
Yes, Barney has evolved into a nicer, more sympathetic version of himself. But no, he has not evolved to the point where he is suddenly opening his dating pool up to the fatties. So why spend a whole episode pretending that anyone in the group would buy that? Fuck that. Trying to make us buy this impossible concept pushes fans to disregard everything they know about Barney up to this point.
Robin: That Barney and Patrice thing is so bogus. I mean coming to women, the guy has always been a jerk. Yeah I am very conflicted regarding Barney. I would like the show so much more if it went in that direction. It was perfect. I thought they showed Barney as reaching a real life moment where he was truly reflecting on his previous escapades. Of course, this was shown to be false a couple episodes later, but Patrice was shown positively and wanting to help.
Yeah, the dude is a liar. I think you are right about Barney and his lies. You are right in that Patrice is portrayed as a positive character, despite her weight. Also, Patrice being a nice and sweet and positive character should not and does not make it more offensive. If she was overweight and made fun of and shown in a bad way for no other reason than being over weight..
THEN it would be offensive. I agree with some of your points, but the fact that Robin was showing that dating Patrice was so out of character for Barney should not be an offensive thing… everyone who watches the show knows Barney is a total jerkw ehn it comes to women. This was not surprising at all. Also when I watched it I did not at all assume this was some grand play to get Robin. I am a huge fan and I DID think there was a chance that he really had changed.
Randy would have done the same if the roles were reversed. I am honestly amazed that any long term fan would believe that Barney would actually be into Patrice, but I give you credit for being more open-minded about it than I was. Randy would have done the same, true, but it would be different, because it has already been proven that the gang would believe Robin was actually with him.
It just sucks that they took basically the only female plus size character and used her solely as a device for Barney to get a skinny woman. And Patrice is so nice, and sweet, that it was easy to take advantage of her towards that end. The difference is that those movies usually end with the hot girl realizing how awesome the dorky guy really is.
I look at it like this — if I was friends with a very attractive woman, and her very attractive ex wanted my help to get her back, I would be glad to help. Because it would be effing embarassing to pretend that I was his girlfriend when everyone that knows him is aware that he is disgusted by women like me.
Patrice, much like myself, might still go along, for the sake of her friend. Or he could even be Barneyish and say, I never thought I could date a fat girl, but spending time with you has opened my eyes to how awesome you are. And Patrice is SO nice and naive? I would have liked that type of ending better, but hey, to each their own. Seriously, thank you for commenting. Not many people want to talk about this stuff and I love getting thoughtful comments to consider and respond to!
We all obviously knew that this was a ploy from the beginning. However, the fact that Barney is the one character who arguably has seen the most changes since the show began, it could just be a reflection on who he is becoming. We slowly see him becoming more emotional and less shallow. We see that though Patrice is not an ideal match for him, he is able to cope well enough that it could seem plausible. This is just as much a way for Barney to break one rule than to break another, getting married.
Barney is really the most mysterious character. He undergoes changes both drastically and dramaticallly. They were both madly in love, and Barney was able to do something for Robin that Ted never could. He showed her that even someone who is strictly against marriage could give in for the right person. Ted is married to Robin by It could also mean Ted still wears the ring from his marriage to Tracy, even if he is dating Robin. Ted is married to someone other than Robin.
After an apparently perfect relationship with Ted, the mother died and just as we suspected, it was a way for Robin and Ted to end up together. We called it a long time ago, down to the blue french horn, with the only mistake being killing off Barney.
Farewell, Barney. She was a fictional character written for the show by the writers. They chose to have her die because it was the best way to achieve the story outcome that they wanted — namely that Ted and Robin end up together. Lily eventually cheated on Marshall after about 20 years together.
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